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Nov 16, 2015 7:00:14 GMT -7
Post by kissy on Nov 16, 2015 7:00:14 GMT -7
I agree. I think we should let the slaughter of Christians continue. I think we should stand back and let women and children be used as sex slaves. It's the Middle East's problem not ours It IS the Middle East's problems, and problems similar to this exist elsewhere. We can't save everyone from themselves.
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Post by mon on Nov 16, 2015 7:09:36 GMT -7
Exactly what we said during world War 2
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Nov 16, 2015 7:13:23 GMT -7
Post by kissy on Nov 16, 2015 7:13:23 GMT -7
Sometimes that's the way it goes.
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Post by mon on Nov 16, 2015 7:15:14 GMT -7
But is it really only a Middle East problem. I can't wrap my head around how it is okay for the persecution of whole segments of a population and people are okay with it because it is a Middle East problem. Here we talk about this whole war on women, but we say and do nothing about a population that is raped and degraded because of where they live. It is a middle east problem.
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Post by mon on Nov 16, 2015 7:15:55 GMT -7
Sometimes that's the way it goes. There are no words
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Post by kissy on Nov 16, 2015 7:15:57 GMT -7
I know! How about this--we send our troops and our military power to all the places in the world where power hungry psychopaths are killing their own. I wonder how many and how much that would cost...
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Nov 16, 2015 7:18:15 GMT -7
Post by kissy on Nov 16, 2015 7:18:15 GMT -7
Sometimes that's the way it goes. There are no words Hey Mon, how are things working out in Iraq right now? So far what we've BEEN doing isn't working. So we go over there and bomb the fuck out of them and people cry about innocent lives being lost in the bombings. People cry over our military that have died trying to save these people from themselves. Lets just go drop an A Bomb over the whole region, kill them all, then start over and resettle. Will that work?
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Post by mon on Nov 16, 2015 7:18:28 GMT -7
Lucky for us that we don't have a grip of people wanting to kill us
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Post by mon on Nov 16, 2015 7:20:36 GMT -7
Do you suggest we sit back and do nothing? I don't have the answers, but I can't sit back and do nothing
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Post by kissy on Nov 16, 2015 7:21:17 GMT -7
But is it really only a Middle East problem. I can't wrap my head around how it is okay for the persecution of whole segments of a population and people are okay with it because it is a Middle East problem. Here we talk about this whole war on women, but we say and do nothing about a population that is raped and degraded because of where they live. It is a middle east problem. Who said it's ok? Deciding that WE can't fix it isn't saying 'it's ok'. It's recognizing we can't fix it, that's all. And we've tried.
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Nov 16, 2015 7:22:26 GMT -7
Post by kissy on Nov 16, 2015 7:22:26 GMT -7
Do you suggest we sit back and do nothing? I don't have the answers, but I can't sit back and do nothing NO one has the answers, but it's not as if we haven't been trying to right the wrong.
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Post by mon on Nov 16, 2015 7:28:56 GMT -7
I understand people are tired of the fight. Nobody has all the answers. I don't see it as a Middle East problem. You do. I see it as a human problem. We created a vacuum in the Middle East, and then we lost the gumption to finish what we started. I don't think most of the Middle East could handle a democracy. The Kurds can, but that is a different topic. It is their culture. They need a strong leader, but at the same time the killing of Christians, Jews, and those who are inferior can't be tolerated
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Post by kissy on Nov 16, 2015 7:38:04 GMT -7
It's not about being tired of the fight, it's about being realistic and recognizing that what we're doing and have been doing IS NOT WORKING, it's only making it worse. And by saying it's a middle east problem I'm saying they need to stand the fuck up and fight for their lives. We went over there and gave that opportunity to them in Iraq and they can't handle it. They had a strong leader and we went in and took him out. They don't need just a strong leader, they need a strong PEOPLE who don't believe in ridiculous religious shit and who just want to live and be happy. NO ONE can MAKE that happen but the people themselves.
But seriously, I'm all for going over there and blowing the whole place the fuck up, all of them, Christians, Jews, muslims, women, and children, and letting the rest of the fucktards know we ain't playin'. I wonder how well that would go over.
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Nov 16, 2015 7:46:31 GMT -7
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Post by smokinghorse on Nov 16, 2015 7:46:31 GMT -7
Those isis people are actually not as hard to find by the way. They seem to have a ton of our weapons that we gave to them or they took They have gotten nothing from us. Their weapons come from Iraq and Syria.
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Nov 16, 2015 7:48:02 GMT -7
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Post by smokinghorse on Nov 16, 2015 7:48:02 GMT -7
I agree. I think we should let the slaughter of Christians continue. I think we should stand back and let women and children be used as sex slaves. It's the Middle East's problem not ours If the reason they're slaughtering Christians is that Christians keep getting involved and trying (unsuccessfully) to insinuate themselves into established cultural and political processes and try to "nation build" and "plant seeds of democracy" and delude themselves into thinking that they will be greeted as liberators, then they might stop targeting us, yes. But we haven't stopped doing that, so they keep a bullseye on us. It is our ignorance of their culture that has brought this to bear. And if it were really about Christians, why not go after Boko Haram in Africa? They've been slaughtering Christians in Nigeria, Chad, Niger, Camaroon. Openly kidnapping large groups of girls and selling them into slavery. Lots of awful, unspeakable violence. China has ramped up their targeting of Churches, as well. They're literally demolishing churches, and detaining members indefinitely. I bring all this up to point out that Christianity is under attack in lots of places. We cannot and should not be in the business of policing them all. Here's an intetesting article from the Christian perspective: www.christianitytoday.com/edstetzer/2015/november/we-are-all-parisians.html?paging=off
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